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Would you like to use a dark-colored user interface?
Yes, it should be the default.
40%
 40%  [ 4 ]
No, please stay with the existing one.
10%
 10%  [ 1 ]
Who cares as long as I can read it?
30%
 30%  [ 3 ]
I'd have to use it for a while to decide.
20%
 20%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 10

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Dark User Interface Color Scheme Reply with quote

There have been a number of requests for a darker user interface color scheme. Karl Holt showed one in his Creative Cow tutorial, which was achieved using the Windows XP appearance manager.

I am investigating adding native support for a darker scheme (the color preference already allow much of the necessary flexibility), and am curious what people thought of it, see poll above...

For a sample screen shot, see http://www.ssontech.com/uploads/grayui.jpg

Note: the colors themselves are configurable via the existing Edit/Edit Preferences mechanism, with a few additions. The chosen colors just have to contrast a bit with some of the existing bitmapped graphics.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Please no white UI Reply with quote

Hi Russ,

Just chiming in on this again - yes, please either do away with white, or better yet, allow us to set the UI colors in SE. White kills me. A medium-gray would be much easier on the eyes.

AE 6.5 does this well with a "slider" control; Combustion is set to a medium/dark gray; Carrara / Hexagon have a really nice dark slate blue/gray; just a few examples.

It may seem trivial to some, but a neutral UI really helps with eye fatigue, seeing color, etc. Thanks for your attention on this, it's much appreciated-

craig
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didya look at the picture I linked to? Smile And as I said, the colors are configurable.

Just to point out to everyone, it's not like white is a "wrong" choice. Obviously both Microsoft and Apple carefully chose the white interface schemes on which SynthEyes is based, Apple apparently thinking they had it so so right that they don't give you a way to change it [unlike Microsoft!] The white interfaces are good for typically bright office environments, the darker colors for darker studio environments....

Also, note that the Mac version will still have to have black lettering for miscellaneous text: in the example, checkboxes like "Slow but sure", labels such as "World Size", the "Error: ..." and the status line at the bottom --- though buttons like Go! will have white text since they are SynthEyes specials. Like I said, OS X really doesn't want to let you change some stuff...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ, you could also write your own custom GUI and escape from both M$ and Apple! Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssontech wrote:
Didya look at the picture I linked to? Smile And as I said, the colors are configurable.

Yup - perfect! Smile

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Just to point out to everyone, it's not like white is a "wrong" choice. Obviously both Microsoft and Apple carefully chose the white interface schemes on which SynthEyes is based, Apple apparently thinking they had it so so right that they don't give you a way to change it [unlike Microsoft!] The white interfaces are good for typically bright office environments, the darker colors for darker studio environments....

Sure that makes sense - although, being a Mac user for years I have to disagree that the Mac interface is "white", it's more of a steel-grey. If you look at all of Apple's pro / creative apps (FCP, DVD Studio Pro, Shake, Motion, etc.), they're all grey. It's also easy to find utilites that globally change the OS' window & menu colors.

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Also, note that the Mac version will still have to have black lettering for miscellaneous text: in the example, checkboxes like "Slow but sure", labels such as "World Size", the "Error: ..." and the status line at the bottom --- though buttons like Go! will have white text since they are SynthEyes specials. Like I said, OS X really doesn't want to let you change some stuff...

That sounds GREAT - thanks again!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac image is at http://www.ssontech.com/images/grayuiMac.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks nice. I like the way the primary colors are slightly muted. Can we do this on the PC version, like for the red, blue & green, etc.?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssontech wrote:
Mac image is at http://www.ssontech.com/images/grayuiMac.jpg

Beautiful! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee-

Some of the colors look to have been beaten down a bit by compression and the mac screen capture seems to run in CMYK space and has to be converted back. The colors for a lot of things are (and have been) customizable from the preferences panel.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I wonder what the entery for the interface backgound color is called in the preference dropdown meny.
I can find everything else but not the general background color.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonsak wrote:
I wonder what the entery for the interface backgound color is called in the preference dropdown meny.
I can find everything else but not the general background color.

Hi Bonsak,

I think it was mentioned above that the Windows example shown was done with Windows' built-in appearance manager. The Mac screenshot was posted by ssonTech / Russ; changing the Mac interface color is not possible yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see, thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to confirm, back in the lab here, I have a version that lets you change the colors of the background and text and a bunch of other new such color controls so that you can achieve the dark-look user interface --- A on a mac, and B on a PC without changing the overall system preferences. When you do a reset preferences, this new build gives you the option to select a set of dark-UI default colors, or the current light-UI default colors. Of course you can change the colors individually too if you like.

This feature will appear when the next "build" is released. I don't have a particular release schedule for this; it will include other riffraff as well (Lobby if you like.)

PC users can achieve a dark UI (as Karl did in the tutorial) by changing their system preferences, though of course that affects all programs on their system, and some may not be too happy about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Russ! This is really great, especially since it gives everyone a choice. VERY cool.

I'll be picking up the full / non-demo version this week!
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